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By ibblacklavender02
6/15/2015 10:42 am
Man Robert Kraft sure knows how to party LoL

Re: Patriots

By Gustoon
6/15/2015 11:01 am
ibblacklavender02 wrote:
Man Robert Kraft sure knows how to party LoL

Re: Patriots

By Morbid
6/15/2015 1:58 pm
Those rings are almost 2x the size as any other teams. I seriously doubt Roger Goodell was invited to this party.

Kraft has already hinted that if Brady's suspension holds they will not raise the Championship banner until his first home game back. I totally support this. I think Goodell is going to be booed right out of Gillette stadium on opening night. He might as well miss that game.

Yeah, Kraft loves his players and takes very good care of them, he is still the best owner in the league as he does so much for the league. He worked his *** off a few years ago to help prevent a work stoppage even tho his wife had passed away during the last week or two of the talks. He works on various committees to keep the league working. People can hate all they want about the Patriots but unless your actually here in NE or actually follow them on a daily basis you just dont understand how much class this organization has as far as the team and the league.

So hate away haters, Patriot's and fan's just smile and keep on winning season after season and this will continue because from top to bottom this organization knows how to work in this league.

Re: Patriots

By Gustoon
6/15/2015 2:56 pm
When the Pats start losing, because they will, all dynastys come to an end some time watch the Pats fan base diminish.
I can't remember a team (in mine) in living memory that has had so many band wagon jumpers, just as Seattle is now attracting, but not in the same ball park.

As a Jets fan, I still can't hate the Pats as much as I do the Dolphins, must be a generational thing. That said I detest the way it appears that Mr Kraft seems to be able to manipulate the league with his ex-best-mate Goodell, hopefully Mr Kraft will be able to dish some dirt on Ol Roger and get the worst commish the NFL has ever had.

Enjoy the party Pats fans, without doubt the leagues best again........unfortunately.

Re: Patriots

By Morbid
6/15/2015 3:30 pm
I dont get what you say by manipulating the league, how exactly is he doing any of that? He and the Pats could have easily brought this whole deflategate thing to court and won it because punishment was handed down with absolutely no proof but assumptions and opinions. The Wells report even says at one point that they find no evidence linking the Patriots, Belichek or Brady in its findings. All they said was its more probably then not. They never found any texts to the ball handlers that Brady ever asked for the ***** to be below the legal limit, Brady got upset because during the Jets game the officials had inflated the ***** to 16 psi and he did not want the ***** to be that high again. Really everything points to the officials not doing their job. So again where has he manipulated the league.

I have always been a Pats fan even when they used to win only a couple games a year. I put the Pats in the same catagory as the Cowboys, you either love them or hate them because of the success they have. I grew up hating the Dolphins, Steelers and Cowboys because they always won and they were on tv all the time back before they had full coverage (70's)

Re: Patriots

By Sardean
6/16/2015 4:02 am
yes ye Seattle certainly has a lot of bandwagon supporters. 2 years ago I looked everywhere for blue and green ties and clothes (not for Seattle but a personal thing). I could not find anything! Now blue and green is everywhere.

Re: Patriots

By Kenchi
6/16/2015 2:43 pm
Morbid wrote:
Really everything points to the officials not doing their job.



I take it, that is your opinion, not a fact. If all else fails, blame the officials. Pretty typical.

They've had waaaay toooo many GATES and too many other shenanigans and have been caught and punished every time.

It's a shame when they have to go "under the table" to get wins at the most opportunistic moments of a game. TUCK RULE: another joke!! There's your officials! I guess they got it right too, eh? They did good too, eh? I believe that got them to a SB too!
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Re: Patriots

By Morbid
6/16/2015 3:36 pm
Username wrote:
Morbid wrote:
Really everything points to the officials not doing their job.



I take it, that is your opinion, not a fact. If all else fails, blame the officials. Pretty typical.

They've had waaaay toooo many GATES and too many other shenanigans and have been caught and punished every time.

It's a shame when they have to go "under the table" to get wins at the most opportunistic moments of a game. TUCK RULE: another joke!! There's your officials! I guess they got it right too, eh? They did good too, eh? I believe that got them to a SB too!


I never liked that tuck rule and never understood it and agree that was a fumble. Spygate was another thing that was over rated. The only thing the patriots did wrong was film from an illegal spot and that rule went into effect the season they got caught for it they gave up a 1st round pick as a penalty. The other team that got caught during the same season for filming in an illegal spot got a $25k fine.

DeflateGate. 2 other teams withing the past 2 season got caught with no probably but 100% got caught by either putting the game ***** under the heater by the benches and the other team got caught wrapping ***** in stickum. No penalties and no fines so yes us Patriots fans get upset when ya call us and team out for cheating when the same things happen in the league with other teams. The biggest difference is the Patriots win every season and they have built a continued success during a time when your not supposed to with a salary cap and FA's.

You want to taint the Pats SB wins go ahead. Pretty much every team in the past 20 years that has won a SB has done something against the rulles. The Seahawks had half a roster jacked up on roids, The Broncos won all those Championships by Illegally violating the salary cap as did SF, also SF and Rice are now tainted because he admitted to using stickum (but he was one of the first to condone Brady for cheating ;) ) How many players on the Cowboys got nailed for cocaine during and after those SB wins? Put it this way when you win you have a spotlight on you and everything you do wrong is magnified but if your team just sucks year in and year out nobody cares if your team cheats or not.

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Re: Patriots

By benguigui
6/16/2015 7:27 pm
The fact that other team also cheat doesn't justify in any way the fact that you are cheating...

I am also upset by this ruling because it is clear that the problem here is poor management of the game ***** by the league and officiating crew that any proof of wrong doing by the pats crew, let alone TB or BB, is weak.

saying that it is more probable than not that a guy who shouldn't be in a race managed to remove between .2 and .5 psi on 12 game ***** in 90 seconds seems far fetched to me.

Re: Patriots

By Morbid
6/16/2015 8:08 pm
Thats what I say also, the fault is on the officials. The one who checked the ***** couldnt even remember what gauge he used to check the ***** before the game so the ***** could have already been low. Teams are not required to set the pressure themselves and leave it to the officials mainly because they dont use the same gauge. The Pats requested them to be set at 12.5

My other issue is this preaching of integrity of the game by Goodell. If he was that sure that the Patriots and Brady had been involved in tampering with the footballs why wait for half the game to be played before checking if they had tampered. Isnt that action an integrity to the game issue also? I mean if the Colts would have ended up losing that game by say 3 points wouldnt they have the right to question the NFL for taking so long to check those *****. This has been a witch hunt since the beginning mainly because the media made it so with all those false accusations they claimed they got from inside sources. ESPN is the first one that should be totally ashamed on how they reported this. The NFL Network also. Judgement had already been made prior to the Wells report due to all the media attention. The Wells report contradicts itself continuously with inadequacies.

If Brady doesnt get fully exonerated he will rip the NFL apart in open court. I am not saying Brady never asked the ball guys to deflate the ***** but I do believe he never wanted the ***** to be ballooned at 16 psi again like the Officials did for the Jets game. There is no record in their text messages saying so, he said he wanted the ***** at 12.5 and that was after a game when he was angry. I am sure nobody else have ever texted something to anyone out of anger before and not meant it personally. As far as Brady turning over his PM's or phone messages I wouldnt be surprised if the NFLPA told him not to do so as it would open the flood gates for the NFL to use in other investigations and I know personally I would never hand over my private information to an employer either without court order. If he had said anything to those guys it would have showed up in their texts and it didnt.