it is 8 to 4 in favor of 4.6

here = https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/forums/6/2275?page=1#12732

are you going to do it when league goes into new season like this one = https://fakepigskin.myfootballnow.com/

TL;DR: 12 votes tells you nothing, 4.6 sucks, 4.5 spits out stats similarly to the NFL, plays like Hitch and Flare should be fixed.

12 votes is hardly a big enough sample size to think that the result is representative of the population's opinion at all. The 90% confidence interval on 8-4 is 39%-88%, meaning it's very likely that the true measure of the population's vote on the matter actually falls somewhere in that range.

The passing game is difficult to pull off in 4.5 as it is, relying mostly on dink-and-dunks with occasional huge catch-and-runs creating the bulk of actual passing yards. People who have played 4.6 have repeatedly brought up concerns over the even further neutered passing game, which you can find in forums for those leagues.

You can see the issue for yourself: compare passing yards/game stats in mature leagues running 4.5 versus mature leagues running 4.6. 4.5 leagues typically have 1-5 teams averaging 300+ passing yards per game. 4.6 leagues struggle to have even a single team average 200+ passing yards/game.

Contrast 4.6 to the NFL. For the last 25 years, the majority of teams averaged 200+ passing yards/game, usually with 0-3 teams averaging 300+. The league average has floated between 200 and 240 passing yards per game since 1993 -- it was usually 200-212 from 1993 to 2007, trended upward for a few years, and has ranged from 230 to 244 since 2012: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/NFL/passing.htm. Bear in mind that the NFL has more parity than MFN, so there would probably be even more teams averaging 300+ yards if the NFL lacked parity like MFN does.

Yes, the Hitch Problem in 4.5 is annoying, and coverages should be adjusted to keep safeties in deep zones from biting on the pass. In the NFL, that safety would be playing over top of the receiver while the CB playing man is underneath, unlike in MFN where even if the man CB is under, the safety is biting on the pass and they can both get burned.

But if Hitch is going to be fixed, then passing plays should get minor buffs so that receivers get open more often and other passing plays can feature skill players beating open-field tackles more often -- or JDB should implement some other fix to the lackluster passing game. This would keep passing numbers in line with the NFL and get rid of annoying glitches from ruining otherwise close games. Similar adjustments should be made to other broken plays like HB Flare too as part of the change.

Either way, the current iteration of 4.6 is not one I want to play, and I think a lot of other people would agree with me.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iWls1ZVLzNlnqbY_gh2OphrV8FfebGKB-EyYTewDzf0/edit?usp=drivesdk

https://lol.myfootballnow.com/forums/1/565?page=1

https://lol.myfootballnow.com/forums/1/662?page=1#3410



I don't recall you playing in either Legends or Victory Jackals, but I could have forgotten. In which case I guess you're either going on hearsay or you've played in MFN-1.

I agree the passing game needs work (in both versions of the game). The main difference between the two versions of the game is that 4.5 needs a lot of side rules. The majority of those are fixed in BETA.

I didn't realize I needed to play in a league to be able to read forums, stats, and game logs, or to watch replays, or to hear the experiences of friends who have played in bleeding edge.

I welcome refutations to any of my actual points or just your opinion without attacking me ad hominem. It would be one thing if I didn't have several seasons of 4.5 under my belt or this game was real-time, but the only information you have access to that I don't is your own ratings and game planning.

What exactly have I said that is offensive to you?

I'm not offended, just direct. You implied I wasn't credible (hearsay) because I haven't actually played bleeding edge. I argued how that's wrong.

You inferred, I implied.

Your original statement contained some inaccuracies, I offered evidence to the contrary. You offered hearsay and anecdotal evidence.

To clarify, I'm not saying you're wrong just that your opinion may differ if you experience it yourself.

Stop it. The main difference between 4.5 and 4.6 is that 4.6 has a worse passing game.

It’s not that simple. Y’all gonna fire Admiral up again if you keep saying that. I’ve been on this site less than a year total, only played 2 franchises, a 4.5 team that won a championship in the 3rd season, and Legends Beta team that is undefeated 5 games into year 2 after division championship first year. The broken plays in 4.5 have been nerfed, so if that is only way you can play, then sure beta sucks for you. The running game is better, the pash rush is better, if you are an old enough gamer, it’s more like playing nfl in the 80’s or 90’s than the madden video game that happens on sundays nowadays.

Do I wish you could throw deep better…yes, absolutely. It’s not a perfect product, but it’s a more balanced gameplan than 4.5. Zone defense still sucks too, until you can get half a defensive strategy to work, I guess it’s not so bad to eliminate offense that breaks it.