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Re: Special Teams Matter

By Phareux
4/17/2020 4:28 pm
I just started the game up again, and I am unsure what order to list my ST players?
such as, do the two wings start at the top of order, and all the rushers lower down or how does that work? thanks

Re: Special Teams Matter

By raidergreg69
4/17/2020 4:44 pm
front 4 are first 4 ST rushers, wings and everyone else except return guy come from gunner list

Re: Special Teams Matter

By setherick
4/19/2020 10:44 am
What about timing? Timing is the ability to kick BEFORE A BLOCK, while giving the rest of the team enough time to get downfield into coverage. Low timing skill (below 60) can result in high opportunity time (over two seconds) for a punt block, and significantly contributes to almost all blocked punts.


Was this piece ever confirmed or refuted? I'm almost certain that Timing is what controls hang time, but the what does this attribute mean page has been removed.

Re: Special Teams Matter

By Lamba
4/19/2020 11:45 am
Not that I'm sure if it's evidence, but since I changed punter to at 100/100 timing, I haven't been blocked once.

Before that, a few people blocked punts vs me and I still see the speed rushes from time to time.

Re: Special Teams Matter

By setherick
4/19/2020 11:48 am
Lamba wrote:
Not that I'm sure if it's evidence, but since I changed punter to at 100/100 timing, I haven't been blocked once.

Before that, a few people blocked punts vs me and I still see the speed rushes from time to time.


Anecdotal evidence is still evidence. The question is are you in a league of expert punt blockers. I won't name names.

Re: Special Teams Matter

By Lamba
4/19/2020 12:16 pm
setherick wrote:
Lamba wrote:
Not that I'm sure if it's evidence, but since I changed punter to at 100/100 timing, I haven't been blocked once.

Before that, a few people blocked punts vs me and I still see the speed rushes from time to time.


Anecdotal evidence is still evidence. The question is are you in a league of expert punt blockers. I won't name names.

I'll say yes and no. I know for a fact, that the rate of punt blocks went straight up when it became a more well known thing. If it happened to coincide with me getting a new punter and them stopping abusing the punt block, then that's an option, of course. It just doesn't seem like it from my games, as I still see those guys flying through the line straight for my punter on occasion.

Re: Special Teams Matter

By CrazyRazor
4/19/2020 12:36 pm
setherick wrote:
Lamba wrote:
Not that I'm sure if it's evidence, but since I changed punter to at 100/100 timing, I haven't been blocked once.

Before that, a few people blocked punts vs me and I still see the speed rushes from time to time.


Anecdotal evidence is still evidence. The question is are you in a league of expert punt blockers. I won't name names.


No. He's not. He's in Any Given Sunday & the "experts" aren't there.......(no offense to the members of AGS.)

Re: Special Teams Matter

By TarquinTheDark
4/20/2020 1:39 am
Never confirmed or refuted, but punters with poor timing get blocked more often. I've watched some punters development as blocks became more common. Timing in the 60s or below can mean five or more blocks in a game, in the 70s maybe three-ish, it becomes rare after that. It's still possible to get blocks against punters with 100 timing, just harder.

I think anecdotal evidence is all we will get, because many other variables contribute. (unless setherick has some statistics to share).
Last edited at 4/20/2020 1:54 am

Re: Special Teams Matter

By raymattison21
4/20/2020 4:40 am
TarquinTheDark wrote:
Never confirmed or refuted, but punters with poor timing get blocked more often. I've watched some punters development as blocks became more common. Timing in the 60s or below can mean five or more blocks in a game, in the 70s maybe three-ish, it becomes rare after that. It's still possible to get blocks against punters with 100 timing, just harder.

I think anecdotal evidence is all we will get, because many other variables contribute. (unless setherick has some statistics to share).


Re: [0.4.6] Version 13a8c36
By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
5/20/2019 3:59 pm
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Strength is the velocity range available, so yes, distance and hang time there.
Accuracy is used when attempting to pin a team inside tho 20.
Punt timing is the time it takes from the time the punter catches the snap until he kicks it. This is similar to Passing Release for QBs.
Kick holding is only used when holding for field goals

Re: Special Teams Matter

By raymattison21
4/20/2020 4:43 am
raymattison21 wrote:
TarquinTheDark wrote:
Never confirmed or refuted, but punters with poor timing get blocked more often. I've watched some punters development as blocks became more common. Timing in the 60s or below can mean five or more blocks in a game, in the 70s maybe three-ish, it becomes rare after that. It's still possible to get blocks against punters with 100 timing, just harder.

I think anecdotal evidence is all we will get, because many other variables contribute. (unless setherick has some statistics to share).


Re: [0.4.6] Version 13a8c36
By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
5/20/2019 3:59 pm
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Strength is the velocity range available, so yes, distance and hang time there.
Accuracy is used when attempting to pin a team inside tho 20.
Punt timing is the time it takes from the time the punter catches the snap until he kicks it. This is similar to Passing Release for QBs.
Kick holding is only used when holding for field goals


somw tests back then had the fasted snap rates here( C to punter)at the level of the slowest snap rates in the nfl