Now I agree with that. In USFL I took over a team that has some crappy contracts that were signed the day before I grabbed the team.

well wasnt trying to punish anyone .

was trying to think of a way to help everyone

though my idea is pointless now that Mwd said what tribewrite does in his league which JDB sounds like that is the route he is going with.

guess i should have posted what tribewrite does in his league and it would have been better though i did think of this idea all myself so i had to go with my idea over someone elses'

As you being a well respected member of the MFN community, I do believe your intentions were good for the league and for the community in general. I just did not believe that the way about going forward with the suggestion that you made were overall in the best interest of the community.

As I pointed out, all leagues have the same cap each year. And again, as I pointed out from the information from the league you provided, there were 27 owners of the 32 who were above the cap average, and 21 of 32 who would lose an average $6 million if this was implemented the way suggested. The amount over or under the cap is a direct result of the previous owner's and current owner's actions, therefore, it is the owner's responsibility to stay under the cap. If your intentions were to maintain league consistency, fairness, and long term resiliency, then I guess we can agree to disagree that it is a total failure, in my opinion.

While I agree with this concept, I STRONGLY believe that if and when this is done, there should also be an automatic reduction in paid talent to achieve this.

Again, lets use the example provided by Punisher, the team Star City Golden Pteradacdyls https://theefl.myfootballnow.com/team/16, who have $22,943 room under the cap. They also have an overall default player rating of an average 77.996.

Lets say player X abandoned his team with $22,943 under the cap. Commish Y sees that this room under the cap is unmanageable and unattractive towards new owners that he could be possibly recruiting for his league and forgives the cap in which may bring it toward the league average. But once again, with a team that has 53 man average default rating better than 85% of the league's starters, but now with $15 million additional money to possibly be used towards the draft, so basically giving back draft choices for those possibly traded away, and FA, fair towards the other owners. Is it fair for a "Super" team to be built because of a....I guess no other way of saying it....a owner's effenscrew up.

actually in USFL/WFL that the idea came from tribewriter owned Florida Blazers and now owns New York (NY) stars which neither is a Super Team

Florida Blazers = https://usflwfl.myfootballnow.com/team/17
won the league at 15-1 in the first year on the league and went 6-10 the 1st season under Pacman327


New York (NY) stars = https://usflwfl.myfootballnow.com/team/30
went 3-13 with thomas_m as owner
went 1-15 with tribewriter


i would think that would destroy the notion of a super team.

While I agree with the point you are taking where having all the talent in the world is useless unless you have the skill and knowledge to utilize it, you are also forgetting that Tribewriter took over the NY Stars in mid season, some where around the 6th or 7th game I would believe (11/09/17 was the welcome thread and the league finished the Season around Thanksgiving), so his tainted 1-15 record isn't a true indicator of his capabilities. To be fair, let's not judge this until the completion of his 1976 season under the NY Stars.

But I do not believe you are attempting to see the concept in which I am basing my argument. Again, using the league you provided as an example (and the USFL), the average default rating of the #1 starting positions of the teams that won the Championship is 74.673....an minus 3 points of talent of the team in Cap trouble. And those teams only have six players of 53 who have a default rating over the average of the whole team in cap trouble, and one of those players is a Kicker.

Now imagine if one of the Supreme owners, like maybe Setherick for example, had an opportunity to take over a team loaded with above elite average talent with the opportunity to gather even more better players, then the end result would ultimately be a "Set it and forget about it" team for years to come. Again, if your intentions is to ultimately improve the community, please ask yourself how does having an inactive owner help. Human nature will take over with the mentality of "I can't win so I'll just walk away." It has been proven time over time, even with the reason of the one who's actions caused this thread to begin

Adding some context:
The Blazers went through three coaches last season. Pacman327 coached them for the last eight games.

I took over the Stars with a dummy account (tribewriter02) after the previous coach quit late in the season. I didn't actually do much coaching, just tried to sign some guys so that the entire team didn't leave via free agency. I officially took over the Stars at the beginning of the current (1976) season.

I don't know if any of that contributes to the discussion of the issue, but wanted to add some clarity.

So why did you let Pacman327 take over Florida if he dumped New York? Or was it that the team was in shambles when Pacman327 took over? You're the Commish of that League. That's why I'm asking?

What Tribe did was when he the Championship with Florida, and because he felt it was better for the league than his ego winning championships (and because some petty owner accused him of creating the league so he could win championships which he quickly stepped upped and shut down) opened the Championship team to a player with less than 1 month's experience in the game. Tribe then took control of another struggling team, the Georgia Force, and as an owner, did what he had to do to make that team successful, in which he also opened up for another owner, then took over the struggling NY Stars. The teams he leaves opened for new, inexperienced owners are in somewhat better than good condition in terms of talent, draft picks, and cap space. (The newly acquired Force has 38 million under the cap with a future dead cap of $750,000)

At one time in the league, he had his 4 Dummy accounts running abandoned teams so the league could continue and grow. And before anyone can make the accusation, there has NEVER been a trade between his playing account and the dummy accounts, nor do I believe that there ever will be.

The two aren't related. The owner who abandoned New York was thomas_m. Pacman took over Florida after two other owners had abandoned it.