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Re: Thoughts?

By rmilat45
6/24/2017 8:09 pm
JohnWayneShooters wrote:
college is not really 4 years. If we want to use the college concept.

1-2 they train.... RED SHIRT YEAR.... but they play to train
3-4 is considered Freshman yr. They are still green.
5-6 should be Soph Years
7-8 is the JR year
9-10 is the SR yr.
11-12 is 5th yr player..( like we have in college now)
and all 13's get cut .... don't sign a guy for 6 years if they are already in 10th yr.
This looks good on paper. It should fit the engine we play with and not real
changes will be needed. Commish just cuts a player if he is on your squad at
the end of the season. Hopefully all will do this for him anyway
John Wayne Shooters...... what say, good thought!!


I like this timeline idea. Each player gets two seasons per college year of eligibility. Only problem is we would have to consider all the players to be, or to have been, a red shirt guy, and all to be fifth year graduates, otherwise it will be a complete mess for someone to police and enforce it all. A guy is red shirted coming out of the draft, one is not, is the former player eligible to play those first two seasons? If he can play those two seasons, can he also be a fifth year graduate player?

Example:
Player A: He is drafted and red shirted(rs) for two seasons (Freshman Year).
Does he have to sit on the roster and not be activated?

From his third season he is a RS Frosh (3-4 on scale above) to his RS Senior year(9-10 on scale above) he is eligible to play. He can have a fifth year IF he graduates on time.
Can he play in pre-season games the first two seasons?

Player B: Starts right away, first season after draft, technically rookie season in MFN. He plays, so his Frosh year are seasons 1-2, Soph 3-4, Jr 5-6, Sr. 7-8, and again, IF he graduates on time, a fifth year at what by the scale above is seasons 9-10.

Does he have two more seasons of eligibility left, as in seasons 11-12, or is he forced to retire?
If he transfers and has to sit out two seasons, does he then get to play in seasons 13-14?

I also see a major problem keeping track of who has transferred, as I believe you are only allowed to do it once unless they give you special permission to do for a special reason. As you see it would be messy for someone to try and keep track of all that.

My suggestion is this:

We can just assume all players are RS's and fifth year graduates, make the limit their 12th season, no one can play in their 13th or higher season, and just say our guys get six years of eligibility, or 12 seasons on the scale above, so we do not have to track who was red shirted, medically red shirted, transferred, needs to sit out seasons because of transfers or RS's, or whatever would come up in real life. Just my two cents....LOL!!!

Re: Thoughts?

By Bryson10
6/24/2017 8:32 pm
My suggestion is this:

We can just assume all players are RS's and fifth year graduates, make the limit their 12th season, no one can play in their 13th or higher season, and just say our guys get six years of eligibility, or 12 seasons on the scale above, so we do not have to track who was red shirted, medically red shirted, transferred, needs to sit out seasons because of transfers or RS's, or whatever would come up in real life. Just my two cents....LOL!!!


i like this :)

Re: Thoughts?

By Bryson10
6/24/2017 8:38 pm
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Re: Thoughts?

By supersloth003
6/24/2017 8:43 pm
I think there are going to be immense strains on the Salary Cap in this league the way things are set up. Years 10-12/13 are going to be horrendous for RB, WR, FB, TE, et cetera. Their skills are going to decrease, rapidly in some cases, while we'll still have to keep them around, where they are going to take up a considerable salary cap number if they were stud players the last contract they signed. Then there's the retirement angle. Say you get unlucky with a few guys retire early when they had some pretty hefty contracts? Turn out the lights, the party's over. JDB has mentioned he's going to make it tougher to keep stud teams together. Is he going to over rule that for this league?

Don't mean to be a downer, but these are just a few of the problems I see long term.

Re: Thoughts?

By Bryson10
6/24/2017 8:47 pm
i don't think the salary cap will be that bad since there won't be any dead cap at all unless you cut players. You can still release guys from their scholarship in any season and get walkons(free agents). Without trades you won't have super stacked teams so the cap will be easier to manage imo

Re: Thoughts?

By rmilat45
6/24/2017 8:47 pm
We will still have to make cuts for roster limits and stuff, so I would imagine if you cut a player and another team or teams want him for his remaining contract and seasons left it would be like the player transferred. If a player is cut twice, maybe that is special circumstances I mentioned. It would not be too difficult to figure it out, especially if there is no trading allowed.

Re: Thoughts?

By rmilat45
6/24/2017 8:59 pm
Here is a thought I just had.

Picture this scenario:

You draft a player and he is a stud for four seasons. His rookie contract being up, 4th or 5th season, not sure what they are right this second, he either will not sign with you or wants too much money.
What would we do in that situation?

If you do not resign him, can another team pick him up?

Would there ever be a situation where a player would NOT resign with his current team?

I will post more as the thoughts come to my mind.




Re: Thoughts?

By DemonMaster
6/24/2017 9:10 pm
Just my thought but as far as cutting players goes I would think since it is college it would be like they have failing grades or such and that would be reasons they would be cut or not re-signed. That way there would be no reason to hold onto a player for 12 seasons and another team could always pick up that player because it would be almost like they re-applied to a different school

Re: Thoughts?

By hchoudhry17
6/24/2017 9:26 pm
Cap won't be an issue. Unless players start demanding even more than they do in the new update, we will have enough room imo

Re: Thoughts?

By rmilat45
6/24/2017 9:33 pm
Can the cap be changed at all. If so, then just set it ridiculously high. It would make the bidding wars for transfer players really interesting. I really do not see a problem with the cap. We will not have regular FA's nor Free Agency, so it will all be re-signing your own and maybe one or two transfer guys, if two are allowed. In the Beta-87 league I am $30 Mil under the cap after our allocation draft, and most everyone else is also, and not really any FA's the next season, so I think we will be okay here cap wise.