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Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By jabillups85 - League Admin
2/04/2022 6:53 pm
I noticed it too but since it was Crazy, I figured he just got lucky.

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By CrazyRazor
2/04/2022 7:27 pm
jabillups85 wrote:
I noticed it too but since it was Crazy, I figured he just got lucky.


Well, the bad part is, I've done this before. I didn't do it this time, but I'm at the mercy of the league.

2033 FA Week 1. WR Aurelio Smith was signed $45 more than the other max bids. (I had to go all the way back to League Transaction page 275 to find the exact numbers.) This bid was quite a bit more than just a few $$$.

I appreciate the votes of confidence in my integrity, guys. It means more than any Championship I'll ever win in any league.

If you guys decide I should drop the player/players (Koonce & Garner) , I'll do so. I just ask that we get JDB to fix my cap, if it comes to that; cause it'll cripple my team.

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By bgedgerly
2/04/2022 8:29 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
jabillups85 wrote:
I noticed it too but since it was Crazy, I figured he just got lucky.


Well, the bad part is, I've done this before. I didn't do it this time, but I'm at the mercy of the league.

2033 FA Week 1. WR Aurelio Smith was signed $45 more than the other max bids. (I had to go all the way back to League Transaction page 275 to find the exact numbers.) This bid was quite a bit more than just a few $$$.

I appreciate the votes of confidence in my integrity, guys. It means more than any Championship I'll ever win in any league.

If you guys decide I should drop the player/players (Koonce & Garner) , I'll do so. I just ask that we get JDB to fix my cap, if it comes to that; cause it'll cripple my team.


Eh. I don’t feel like it should come to that. Besides, if you drop him then A&M might get him next.

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By Bryno
2/04/2022 8:30 pm
My feel is that would be ludicrous. Especially since those two hacks aren't going to help you win anything, anyway! Ha! hahaha!

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By vcr5150
2/04/2022 11:01 pm
I submit that with Garner you clearly won that bid.

With Koonce, just bench him when you play aTm, but he has a green light to play every time against LSU.

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By WarEagle
2/13/2022 9:59 am
I still don't understand the reason for this rule in the first place.
I feel like any argument in favor of this can also be made about custom rules.

That said, it really doesn't matter to me. I'm never getting a top FA anyway.

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By Bryno
2/13/2022 10:11 am
Because not everyone knows how to do it and it goes outside of normal design/use of the tool. A.k.a. "exploit".

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That is what I used to think. I'm starting to think that its not about that anymore.

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By WarEagle
2/14/2022 8:52 am
Just like everything else in this game, you're better off doing something manually than letting the "system" help you.

I don't consider entering your contract values manually to be an "exploit".

By that rationale we should require everyone to use the contract renegotiation "wizard", since some owners may not know how to re-sign their own players properly.



Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By Bryno
2/14/2022 9:11 am
WarEagle wrote:
Just like everything else in this game, you're better off doing something manually than letting the "system" help you.

I don't consider entering your contract values manually to be an "exploit".

By that rationale we should require everyone to use the contract renegotiation "wizard", since some owners may not know how to re-sign their own players properly.


W.E.

When this league was formed (I worked with Bryson quite a bit on this in the beginning). It was on the basis of being "restrictive" in many instances. No trading being the 1st and foremost. When we started there wasn't even an option for that as an admin, so it was laid out in the League Rules. Along with several other things like 11yr career max, 1 yr transfer for example.

In the case of the Contract Offer screen, it wasn't widely known that you could "juice" the offer by doing it manually - and everyone for the most part simply maxed out the sliders when 'going-for-it' in trying to get a good FA and it was up to RNG (or whatever logarithm) to determine what team would get the player. Of course a few seasons in, some people became privy to the work-around, which drove the RULING for not manipulating around the interface manually.

As for your comparison to the Contract Renegotiation wizard. Prior to the forming of this League, it was a long known fact that using it would destroy a team's cap in no time. And anyone coming into this league (new) that didn't know about Jsid's contract tool - was informed and encouraged to use it in order to NOT destroy their team's cap. So that just made sense. (And does to this day for ANY league)

Using Gameplan Rules truly ARE a part of this game and using them isn't exploiting, so I don't see the relevance in that comparison.

In general. This league was born on restrictions, in order to level the playing field as much as possible. And for the first 10-15 seasons, almost everyone was onboard and understood that. The longer we go and the more new folks come in - the less they are aware of that and don't necessarily see the purpose. And I think THAT is the thing that is coming to light the most with this topic and others like it.

Re: Max Contract Rules Clarification Moving Forward (PLEASE READ)

By jabillups85 - League Admin
2/14/2022 10:31 am
The No Trading is the biggest thing for me that makes this league so different. It also makes FA so important. Some people love the lack of trading and others leave because of it. I love the college idea and wish more people would jump on board.